Patrick is the son ofPatrick James McKie[unknownconfidence] Does your gateway ancestor appear below? Edward is the son of Ann Tomlinson [unknown confidence] William is the son ofMary (Wilson) Danforth[unknownconfidence] Hi John, a better way to say it is that America has its own special way of defining and listing gateway ancestors that is very well-known, whereas in other countries the word is used flexibly. Michael is the son of Lucy (Buckton) Heneage 1. The following is a complete list of all New England Gateway Ancestors of proven royal descent published by Douglas Richardson in 2013. Some kings even made their illegitimate children their heirs when they did not procure any legitimate ones. Well harsh thing is I would like if someone could help find documents because all the information was from a family bible that Do esnt exist anymore. Any confirmation or finding of questionable information is appreciated. 21. Elizabeth Sarah Barbour (1818-1903) 3. I also connect to this tree (which is why I was up on Mary Fienes!) 8th ed. Read about our approach to external linking. It has been proposed for a while on the Edward III descent table, but if we disconnect here then do we know who to connect her to? (The Fitts section). Only some of these are from New England and several lines may only include a few surviving descendants. 9. Because the Connecticut Tisdales were also in that line -- through, Charlemagne and find relationship to him or for that matter any ancestor that far back. Thomas is the son ofThomas Southworth II[unknownconfidence] 14. "The Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton: Quaker Immigrants to Pennsylvania" in The American Genealogist, vol. 12. Joan Janet Stewartprobably has the details for two people; Joan Stewart Countess of Morton, who m. James Douglas,1st Earl of Mortonand had 4 children and Janet Stewart, someone with different parents who marriedWilliam Gordon. Elizabeth). Most people who can connect to a few other families on wikitree will have cousin relationships to basically everyone else on the main tree including royalty. James is the son ofJoan (Beaufort) Stewart[unknownconfidence] This trail tells us that Archibald is the 14th great grandfather of Beth. 5 Volumes (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013) Available on Amazon. That seems reasonable to me, no one in the family ever thought of a royal connection! This corrects the line originally posted. I've disconnected Richard Lake from his erroneous parents. and if you don't like thatlineuse my 4th great grandmothers line! 13. Elizabeth of York (1465-1503) 3. It sounds like there are errors in this line but I really don't know how to correct it. Duncan is the son of Patrick Mckie [unknown confidence], 5. But finding the line that gets you there is the trick! I still find it amazing that a bunch of South Carolina hill bullies could have such rich history. Catherine is the daughter of Joan (Beaufort) de Neville LG [confident] [unknown confidence] 14. Richard III Gender: Female. 16. Joshua is the son ofMary Anna (Embree) Duncan[unknownconfidence] 9. Thank you for doing this Joe and Andrew and others. Thomas is the son of Elizabeth (Percy) Neville [confident] (All English monarchs since Henry II were descendants of Malcolm III of Scotland, and all Scottish monarchs since James II of Scotland were descendants of Edward III of England; see this chart.) 13. 11. King edward the 3rd is my 22nd great grandfather my dad has somthing to prove it too Hi Darrel, Wikitree does have a profile for Charlemagne, Thanks for the information Andrew it much appreciated. Hawte Wyatt is on the list, so yes it works as a proven line from him on up to EIII. Hannah is the daughter of John Lake - his wife and children immigrated, but he stayed in England Mary is the daughter ofJohn Sydenham MP[unknownconfidence] Supposedly related to royalty. 23. I do not see any of these names on the list of gateway ancestors. 11. There appears to be no evidence that Frank Wheatleigh even had a wife named Mary, so Mary Fiennes may never have existed. Dorothy is the daughter ofMary (Fiennes) Fiens[unknownconfidence] You start to read about your ancestors on Wikipedia. Philippa Plantagenet, (5th) Countess of Ulster = Edmund MORTIMER. 15. Thanks Joe already looking for Thomas and others, and added the source with the records and transcripts + translations, to the post above. Susannah is the daughter ofMichael Woods II[unknownconfidence] Royal Blood? Lineage Societies for 15. How could a modern-day comedian turn out to be related to a medieval monarch? 10. I had cause to look at the book in which the Mary Fienes claim was made. 12. Richard I is the son ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[confident] I have not had a chance to review them. Questionable Gateway Ancestors) of Henry Peck are Robert Peck and Joseph Peck. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] RJ, had suggested to me, Jane Finch, mother of Hawte Wyatt, for a trail I was working on to reach one of the Magna Carta Barons. I have this guy - can I help be the Disconnectrix? "It's not that uncommon," says Graham Holton, a tutor on a postgraduate course on genealogy at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. Martha is the daughter of Dorothy (Wheatley) Bliss [unknown confidence] 10. 12. Edward IV of England (1442-1483) 2. Elizabeth is the daughter of Charles Somerset KG [confident] Descendants PS, is there another project related to Charlemagne? "It was very interesting. Frances Deighton is the gateway ancestor. The Baronial Order of Magna Charta (BOMC) keeps its own list of Gateway ancestors that descend from the barons who forced King John of England to sign the document at Runnymede on 15 Jun 1215. Eleanor Greystoke has an Uncertain flag, citing an old book with an old Eure pedigree that makes her Ralph Greystoke's daughter. Francois says in a 1733 notarial act that he is the son of Robert de Joyeuse, but offers no proof of it. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#FrancoisJoyeusedied1556B. Because the records of most ordinary families would not stretch back that far, most people would not know about their link. mentuons another John Harrington in circulation, though it doesn't say how he connects. Joan is the daughter of Joan (Beaufort) Stewart [unknown confidence] For completeness I think John Lightfoot-92 and his brother Philip Lightfoot-255 have a line in the latest Richardson books, which I haven't seen. Apparently a violent drunk, he terrorized the neighboring town of Tavistock for a number of years. 3. Alice is the daughter ofAnne Harris[unknownconfidence] But genealogists say it's much more likely than people expect, Genetics professor Turi King says we are all much more interrelated than might be recognised, Edward I could have a descendant in any street, with millions of his family alive now, Else Churchill found a surprise in her own DNA results, The secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure. "We're reliant on the survival of records," she says. Issue of Edward III of England - Wikipedia Cecilia is the daughter of Joan (Strangeways) Berkeley [unknown confidence] The list was kindly provided by Douglas Richardson, author of theRoyal Ancestryseries. Patrick is the son of James McKie [unknown confidence], 7. 21. Ralph's wife died in 1413. https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=RA1-PA18, https://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA1-PA130. 5. 4. It was living descendants of one of his sisters that enabled researchers to use DNA to help identify the bones of Richard III found in Leicester. 19. How millions don't know they're related to royalty - BBC News WebThe last decade of the reign of Edward III was years of decline. In fact most royal lineages found on Internet trees include what are called BGAs short for Bogus Gateway Ancestors. Countless man-years of genealogical effort is lost because of BGAs not to mention the heartbreak one suffers when one has to prune ones medieval roots leaving a sorry looking stump! 8. I haven't fully researched it yet but there is likely a problem at the immigrant ancestor. What this really shows, according to genealogy experts, is that if you look back far enough a surprisingly high number of people will find a royal ancestor. In 1337, Edward created the Duchy of Cornwall to provide the heir to the throne with an income independent of the sovereign or the state. John is the son ofAlice Harry[unknownconfidence] Beatrice is the daughter of Jane (Campbell) Mackintosh [unknown confidence] When is Royal Gateway Ancestor label appropriate? William is the son ofWilliam Knox[unknownconfidence] 18. 10. Andrew is the son of Katherine Gordon [unknown confidence], 11. 24. Yes Kirk he indeed was ;) I added the source for themarriage (image + link to the archive + transcript (also in English) to Agnes Carpenters profile now as well. Edward III (r. 1327-1377 22. These are coming in much faster than I can research and answer. 17. Join Geni to explore your genealogy and family history in the World's Largest Family Tree. 9. http://news.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2013-08/1375902884. 7. Youve worked tirelessly for years on your genealogy and youve finally gotten your tree back to the Great Migration. Meghan Markle Actually Has Royal Ancestors